- Birth 23 February 1831, in Charlois, Holland, Netherland
- Died 25 August 1879, Charlois, Zuid, Netherlands
- Birth 9 April 1835 in Zwijndrecht, Zuid Holland, Netherlands
- Died 3 June 1907 in Rotterdam, Holland
I don't have any histories of these two, the Vanderwel side has very little information available
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